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Old 10-21-2011, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 67' Scout 800 wiring

Alright so here's the deal, I am working on a 67' Scout 800 2wd 4cyl manual trans at my schools auto shop. The problem is some idiot decided to disconnect every wire on the dash side of the truck, the ignition, all of the gauges ect. and basically the entire wiring system is ghetto. We are trying to get this running with as little wiring as possible.

I spent some time today trying to get it to just turn over. We took the ignition to the engine compartment and I tried to connect everything with just alligator clips to see if I could get it to turn over.

SO I had the hot lead from the batt. to the batt. clip on the ign. I hooked the starter to the starter clip on the ign. And I had to ign. coil + side ran through a resistor then into the ign. (run mode) on the ign. Nothing happened when I turned the key.


Anyways do you guys have any tips, or any ideas to simplify the wiring?

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Old 10-22-2011, 08:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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anyone??? I'll get some pics tuesday mebbe
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Meddy huh? Check out post 8 in the link below. This is a sticky thread in the Electrical Tech sub-forum. Might give you a little help. You'll need to print out a hard copy of the pdf and use a magnifying glass to read it.

If the wiring is really as bad as you make it sound, you'll spend a lot of time chasing your tail, polishing random turd wires into gems...or you can pony up the bucks for a universal kit such as Kwikwire available right here from IHON. Then you can gut all that spaghetti and start fresh with individually labelled circuits.

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Old 10-23-2011, 06:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If I owned the Scout then I would buy the kit in a heartbeat, however it is owned by my school right now. I am planning on buying the Scout after I have it running, but I don't wanna buy it with out driving it. So I may try and get it running enough to drive it then buy the truck and the wiring kit.


And thanks for the link to the wiring diagram
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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OK makes sense. The circuitry required to enable starting and running is pretty basic, even if you have to run new wires just for that purpose. Its essentially B+ to the large starter solenoid lug, which is then transferred to the ignition switch via a 10ga wire for main power and accessory distribution. There is no fuse block. The coil + terminal should have two wires connected to it. One is a ballasted or resisted feed which is from a key switched "on" source. The other originates from the solenoid 'R' terminal and is a resistor bypass which provides full B+ to the coil only while the starter is cranking. Once the engine catches and the starter is released, then the ballasted feed takes over. The coil - terminal has a small gauge wire running up into the distributor. Check your grounds too. Good luck and have fun!
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Oh, and one other critical wire I failed to mention. It would be the circuit running from the "start" terminal on the ignition switch down to the "I" terminal on the solenoid. That one is necessary to engage the starter when the key is switched to the "start" position. Kind of important. Sorry for leaving it out.
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Thanks for the info, Im going to try and get this thing at least cranking over this week
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If this engine has been hibernating in a non-rotated state for a year or longer, it would behoove you guys to perform some pre-lube procedures before you get too carried away with cranking. If you go to post #3 in the link below, you'll find a large pdf file attachment "Old Iron" which explains this procedure in great detail. Its a bit involved, but certainly less of a pain than replacing wiped cam bearings a short time later from dry revs. Although that job would be a great learning experience for the class. I'm local to you. Which school are you attending?


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we actually started to prep for turning it over today in class, we are gunna spray some wd-40 in the cylinders and crank oil through the system via the distributer.

And I got to north medford high school
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I got a couple of pics today
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Black Tornado. Sweet. Someone is to be commended for the choice of subject vehicles for you young uns to learn on. It doesn't get much more basic than an old Scout. The distributor is a Delcotron 4-popper unit. Those are great dizzys and very hard to come by. Don't let that one sprout any "legs" while its out of the engine.
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Yea, we have a bunch of random vehicles, our teacher got this one cause a kid owed him 150 bucks and had that scout that wasn't running. So my teacher gave him 150 for it so basically payed 300 for it. I am considering buying it to cruise in while I am building my race truck, but ill see how I like driving it. Supposedly it should run like a champ, it has a recent valve job and new piston rings and i think a few other things
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A few pics I took today


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She's a beaut, Clark! The front grille/valance piece came off of an older Scout 80 model. Not that it matters any on this "custom" ride. On a stock '67 grille, the word INTERNATIONAL is spelled out in block letters across the center, instead of the brass man on a tractor IH emblem and the grille insert is more of a honey-comb design.
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Thinking about it now it does look a little retro-fitted. I'm not worried about it, if I buy this after a while of DDing it i'm building a crawler
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